# Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8 Max

> Side-by-side benchmark comparison for Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Max across agentic, coding, multimodal, knowledge, reasoning, multilingual, and math tasks.

- Canonical page: https://benchlm.ai/compare/gemini-4-argon-vs-qwen3-8-max
- Last updated: September 30, 2026

- Shared sourced benchmarks: 6
- HTML indexing: indexable
- Ranking lane: BenchAlign v5.7

## Quick Verdict

Pick Qwen3.8 Max if you want the stronger benchmark profile. Gemini 4 Argon only makes more sense when its price, context window, or workload-specific category wins matter more than the overall score.

## Summary

- Qwen3.8 Max leads overall 71.31 to 64.59.
- The clearest category separation is in coding, where the averages are 68.4 for Gemini 4 Argon and 55.5 for Qwen3.8 Max.
- The biggest single benchmark swing is OSWorld 2.0 in Agentic, with scores of 69.2% and 19.4%.
- Qwen3.8 Max is the cheaper option on output tokens, which matters if you expect large responses or heavy interactive use.
- Qwen3.8 Max also has the larger context window at 1M.

## Model Snapshot

| Property | Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen3.8 Max |
|----------|----------|----------|
| Creator | Google | Alibaba |
| Type | Proprietary | Open Weight |
| Reasoning | Reasoning | Reasoning |
| Context | null | 1M |
| Overall Score | 64.59 | 71.31 |
| Benchmarks Covered | 17 | 60 |
| Pricing (input/output) | $2.00 / $10.00 | Pricing unavailable / Pricing unavailable |

## Category Breakdown

### Agentic

- Winner: Directional only
- Gemini 4 Argon public-lane score: 63.7 (Estimated · #14/119)
- Qwen3.8 Max public-lane score: 65.5 (Supported · #12/119)

| Benchmark | Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen3.8 Max | Winner |
|-----------|-----------|-----------|--------|
| AutomationBench | 51.3% | 27.3% | Gemini 4 Argon |
| Finance Agent v2 | 65.4% | Coming soon | Coming soon |
| Terminal-Bench 4.0 | 57.40% | Coming soon | Coming soon |
| Agents' Last Exam | 39.5% | 52.4% | Qwen3.8 Max |
| OSWorld 2.0 | 69.2% | 19.4% | Gemini 4 Argon |
| CWE-bench v1 | 68.0% | Coming soon | Coming soon |
| Terminal-Bench-Science 0.1 (6x verifier timeout) | 57.6% | Coming soon | Coming soon |
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 | Coming soon | 86.6% | Coming soon |
| CoWorkBench | Coming soon | 74.8% | Coming soon |
| JobBench | Coming soon | 53.4% | Coming soon |
| skillsBench | Coming soon | 70.2% | Coming soon |
| Toolathlon-Verified | Coming soon | 72.5% | Coming soon |
| WideResearch | Coming soon | 81.9% | Coming soon |
| HLE w/ tools | Coming soon | 56.2% | Coming soon |
| OSWorld-Verified | Coming soon | 86.1% | Coming soon |
| WebArena-Verified | Coming soon | 66.8% | Coming soon |
| AndroidWorld | Coming soon | 85.3% | Coming soon |
| MobileWorld | Coming soon | 77.8% | Coming soon |
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 (Vals) | Coming soon | 67.4% | Coming soon |

### Coding

- Winner: Gemini 4 Argon
- Gemini 4 Argon public-lane score: 68.4 (Supported · #8/144)
- Qwen3.8 Max public-lane score: 55.5 (Supported · #29/144)

| Benchmark | Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen3.8 Max | Winner |
|-----------|-----------|-----------|--------|
| DeepSWE | 77.9% | 56.6% | Gemini 4 Argon |
| FrontierSWE v2 | 55.1% | 15.8% | Gemini 4 Argon |
| Vibe Code Bench | 91.90% | Coming soon | Coming soon |
| PostTrainBench v1.1 | 45.3% | Coming soon | Coming soon |
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 | Coming soon | 86.6% | Coming soon |
| SWE-bench Pro | Coming soon | 67.7% | Coming soon |
| NL2Repo | Coming soon | 55.9% | Coming soon |
| FrontierSWE | Coming soon | 73.5% | Coming soon |
| MLS-Bench Lite | Coming soon | 41.0% | Coming soon |
| PaperBench | Coming soon | 93.0% | Coming soon |
| VulcanBench v3 | Coming soon | 81.2% | Coming soon |
| OpenHarmony Bench | Coming soon | 60.8% | Coming soon |
| LiveCodeBench (Vals) | Coming soon | 87.9% | Coming soon |
| SWE-bench (Vals) | Coming soon | 85.6% | Coming soon |

### Reasoning

- Winner: Not comparable
- Gemini 4 Argon public-lane score: 77.1 (Unranked · 3 rankable rows)
- Qwen3.8 Max public-lane score: 87.7 (Unranked · 2 rankable rows)

| Benchmark | Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen3.8 Max | Winner |
|-----------|-----------|-----------|--------|
| Graphwalks BFS 128K | 99.7% | Coming soon | Coming soon |
| GraphWalks BFS 256K–1M | 84.2% | Coming soon | Coming soon |
| MRCRv2 | Coming soon | 92.9% | Coming soon |
| LongBench v2 | Coming soon | 66.3% | Coming soon |

### Multimodal & Grounded

- Winner: Not comparable
- Gemini 4 Argon public-lane score: Coming soon
- Qwen3.8 Max public-lane score: 88.4 (#5/49)

| Benchmark | Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen3.8 Max | Winner |
|-----------|-----------|-----------|--------|
| Chartography (no tools) | 71.6% | Coming soon | Coming soon |
| LVBench | 91.7% | 81.8% | Gemini 4 Argon |
| MMMU-Pro | Coming soon | 82.3% | Coming soon |
| MathVision | Coming soon | 95.2% | Coming soon |
| MathVision w/ Python | Coming soon | 97.7% | Coming soon |
| BabyVision | Coming soon | 82.0% | Coming soon |
| BabyVision w/ Python | Coming soon | 91.3% | Coming soon |
| ZeroBench | Coming soon | 24.0% | Coming soon |
| ZeroBench w/ Python | Coming soon | 49.0% | Coming soon |
| MedXpertQA (MM) | Coming soon | 80.4% | Coming soon |
| ScreenSpot Pro | Coming soon | 84.5% | Coming soon |
| Vision2Web | Coming soon | 69.0% | Coming soon |
| CharXiv w/o tools | Coming soon | 88.4% | Coming soon |
| CharXiv | Coming soon | 93.5% | Coming soon |
| OmniDocBench 1.5 | Coming soon | 92.1% | Coming soon |
| OCRBench V2 | Coming soon | 74.2% | Coming soon |
| CC-OCR | Coming soon | 79.6% | Coming soon |
| RealWorldQA | Coming soon | 88.0% | Coming soon |
| ERQA | Coming soon | 77.8% | Coming soon |
| SimpleVQA | Coming soon | 75.0% | Coming soon |
| PerceptionBench | Coming soon | 63.5% | Coming soon |
| Video-MME (with subtitle) | Coming soon | 90.4% | Coming soon |
| VideoMMMU | Coming soon | 88.7% | Coming soon |
| MMVU | Coming soon | 82.4% | Coming soon |
| MLVU (M-Avg) | Coming soon | 90.8% | Coming soon |

### Knowledge

- Winner: Gemini 4 Argon
- Gemini 4 Argon public-lane score: 72.9 (Supported · #11/170)
- Qwen3.8 Max public-lane score: 66.3 (Supported · #23/170)

| Benchmark | Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen3.8 Max | Winner |
|-----------|-----------|-----------|--------|
| LABBench2 | 88.8% | Coming soon | Coming soon |
| GPQA | Coming soon | 92.6% | Coming soon |
| GPQA-D | Coming soon | 92.6% | Coming soon |
| HLE | Coming soon | 43.6% | Coming soon |
| HLE w/o tools | Coming soon | 43.6% | Coming soon |
| GPQA Diamond (Vals) | Coming soon | 93.7% | Coming soon |
| MMLU-Pro (Vals) | Coming soon | 88.6% | Coming soon |

### Instruction Following

- Winner: Not comparable
- Gemini 4 Argon public-lane score: Coming soon
- Qwen3.8 Max public-lane score: 90.5 (#16/124)

| Benchmark | Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen3.8 Max | Winner |
|-----------|-----------|-----------|--------|
| Gray Swan IPI (15 attempts) | 0.7% | Coming soon | Coming soon |
| IFBench | Coming soon | 82.8% | Coming soon |

## FAQ

### Which is better overall, Gemini 4 Argon or Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max is ahead overall on BenchLM right now.

### Where is the biggest gap between Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Max?

The widest category gap is in coding, where the averages are 68.4 for Gemini 4 Argon and 55.5 for Qwen3.8 Max.

### How many benchmarks does Gemini 4 Argon cover on BenchLM?

Gemini 4 Argon currently has 17 sourced benchmark scores on BenchLM.

### How many benchmarks does Qwen3.8 Max cover on BenchLM?

Qwen3.8 Max currently has 60 sourced benchmark scores on BenchLM.

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