Model comparison

DeepSeek V3 vs Qwen3.8 Max

Updated August 3, 2026. Public scores include evidence status and uncertainty. They are not guarantees for a specific workload.

DeepSeek V3

DeepSeek

44.0/100

Supported · Public rank #156

90% interval 25.4–62.7

Qwen3.8 Max

Alibaba

65.4/100

Estimated · Public rank #31

90% interval 55.5–75.3

Qwen3.8 Max has the higher public score estimate, 65.4 versus 44.03, but the 90% score intervals overlap. Treat that as a lead, not a settled winner.

1 results are shared. Category rows based on different benchmark sets are marked directional and do not name a winner.

Which one for your work

Recommendations appear only when a shared evidence basis or an explicit operating constraint supports the call. Secondary and unsupported use cases stay disclosed below the initial list.

Long documents
Prompts that approach the documented context limit
Qwen3.8 Max
Qwen3.8 Max has the larger documented context window.
Confidence: documented

Show secondary and unsupported calls

Coding work
Code generation, repair, and software-engineering tasks
Not enough matched evidence
No shared weighted benchmark basis supports a winner.
Confidence: limited
Agentic work
Tool use, computer use, and multi-step task completion
Not enough matched evidence
No shared weighted benchmark basis supports a winner.
Confidence: limited
Chat turn cost
1K fresh input + 500 output tokens
Not enough matched evidence
A complete comparable API-rate estimate is not available for both models.
Confidence: listed-rates
Cache-heavy agent loop cost
200K cached + 20K fresh input + 10K output tokens
Not enough matched evidence
The page does not recommend a cost winner because at least one model cannot fit the stated workload in one request. DeepSeek V3 does not fit this workload in one request. Qwen3.8 Max has no comparable published API token rate.
Confidence: listed-rates
Repository review cost
50K fresh input + 3K output tokens
Not enough matched evidence
A complete comparable API-rate estimate is not available for both models.
Confidence: listed-rates

What is actually comparable

Shared results can support a head-to-head reading. Results present for only one model describe coverage, not superiority.

5 DeepSeek V3 only

1 Shared

51 Qwen3.8 Max only

Shared results: 1
DeepSeek V3 only: 5
Qwen3.8 Max only: 51
Like-for-like categories: 0 / 8

1 category uses different evidence sets. Those rows remain visible for coverage context but do not name a winner.

Category results, on a stated basis

Each row states whether both averages use the same weighted benchmark set. Directional and not-comparable rows remain visible, but they never receive a winner in this template.

Knowledge

Directional only

DeepSeek V3: 72.7
Qwen3.8 Max: 50.2
Weighted basis: 2 vs 2 rows
Reading: Directional only

Agentic

Not comparable

DeepSeek V3: Not measured
Qwen3.8 Max: 86.1
Weighted basis: 0 vs 1 rows
Reading: Not comparable

Coding

Not comparable

DeepSeek V3: 38.9
Qwen3.8 Max: 67.7
Weighted basis: 2 vs 1 rows
Reading: Not comparable

Reasoning

Not comparable

DeepSeek V3: Not measured
Qwen3.8 Max: 78.3
Weighted basis: 0 vs 2 rows
Reading: Not comparable

Math

Not comparable

DeepSeek V3: 1.7
Qwen3.8 Max: Not measured
Weighted basis: 1 vs 0 rows
Reading: Not comparable

Multilingual

Not comparable

DeepSeek V3: Not measured
Qwen3.8 Max: Not measured
Weighted basis: 0 vs 0 rows
Reading: Not comparable

Multimodal

Not comparable

DeepSeek V3: Not measured
Qwen3.8 Max: 86.3
Weighted basis: 0 vs 2 rows
Reading: Not comparable

Instruction following

Not comparable

DeepSeek V3: 86.1
Qwen3.8 Max: 82.8
Weighted basis: 1 vs 1 rows
Reading: Not comparable

Category averages with the server-provided evidence basis for DeepSeek V3 and Qwen3.8 Max
Category	DeepSeek V3	Qwen3.8 Max	Weighted basis	Reading
Knowledge	72.7	50.2	Directional only2 vs 2 rows	Directional only
Agentic	Not measured	86.1	Not comparable0 vs 1 rows	Not comparable
Coding	38.9	67.7	Not comparable2 vs 1 rows	Not comparable
Reasoning	Not measured	78.3	Not comparable0 vs 2 rows	Not comparable
Math	1.7	Not measured	Not comparable1 vs 0 rows	Not comparable
Multilingual	Not measured	Not measured	Not comparable0 vs 0 rows	Not comparable
Multimodal	Not measured	86.3	Not comparable0 vs 2 rows	Not comparable
Instruction following	86.1	82.8	Not comparable1 vs 1 rows	Not comparable

Shape of the matched evidence

Only shared public evidence is shown. Sparse evidence stays a ruled list rather than being closed into a radar shape.

Too few matched category axes support a radar. The ruled list below shows only shared benchmark results; positions use each benchmark’s normalized display scale when available.

GPQA
Knowledge
DeepSeek V3: 59.1%Qwen3.8 Max: 92.6%Normalized gap 33.5DeepSeek V3 source Qwen3.8 Max source

What each workload costs

Three fixed token mixes turn per-token rates into comparable decisions. Each scenario states context fit and whether cached input had to fall back to the published list-input rate.

Chat turn

1K fresh input + 500 output tokens

DeepSeek V3: $0.00082; Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Max: API rate not published; Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Max has no comparable published API token rate.

Repository review

50K fresh input + 3K output tokens

DeepSeek V3: $0.0168; Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Max: API rate not published; Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Max has no comparable published API token rate.

Cache-heavy agent loop

200K cached + 20K fresh input + 10K output tokens

DeepSeek V3: $0.0304; Does not fit in one request
Qwen3.8 Max: API rate not published; Fits in one request; Cached-input rate unavailable

DeepSeek V3 does not fit this workload in one request. Qwen3.8 Max has no comparable published API token rate.

Specification differences

Sourced differences are shown directly. Missing facts stay explicit instead of being inferred from a model name or family.

SpecificationDeepSeek V3Qwen3.8 Max

Context window

Maximum documented context; output-token limits may be lower.

DeepSeek V3

128K

Qwen3.8 Max

Alibaba Cloud Model Studio pricing

API model ID

DeepSeek V3

Not sourced

Qwen3.8 Max

qwen3.8-max

Alibaba Cloud Model Studio pricing

Cached-input rate

A missing cached-input rate falls back to the listed input rate only in the stated workload estimate.

DeepSeek V3

$0.07 per 1M cached input tokens

Qwen3.8 Max

No comparable hosted API rate

Alibaba Cloud Model Studio pricing

Documented inputs

DeepSeek V3

Not sourced

Qwen3.8 Max

Not sourced

Documented outputs

DeepSeek V3

Not sourced

Qwen3.8 Max

Not sourced

Provider availability

DeepSeek V3

Not sourced

Qwen3.8 Max

Not sourced

Reasoning profile

DeepSeek V3

Non-Reasoning

Qwen3.8 Max

Reasoning

Weight access

DeepSeek V3

Open Weight

Qwen3.8 Max

Proprietary

License

DeepSeek V3

Open Weight

Qwen3.8 Max

Proprietary

Release date

DeepSeek V3

2024-12-26

Qwen3.8 Max

2026-08-03

If you already use one of these models

Deployment change: The models list different providers, so authentication, endpoint behavior, limits, and feature support may change.
Quality signal: Qwen3.8 Max has the higher public score estimate, 65.4 versus 44.03, but the 90% score intervals overlap.
Workload cost: A complete comparable API-rate estimate is not available for both models.
Context tradeoff: Qwen3.8 Max has the larger documented window (1M).

Run the same representative tasks against both endpoints before changing production traffic.

Self-host vs API cost

Estimates at 50,000 req/day · 1000 tokens/req average.

DeepSeek V3

API / mo$1,028

Self-host / mo$18,221

Break-even1.2B/day

Qwen3.8 Max

API / mo$0

Self-host / moNot listed

Break-even—

Proprietary model — self-hosting not applicable.

Model the full break-even

Benchmark evidence

The full public result ledger is available for audit without forcing a wide desktop table onto a phone.

Browse raw public benchmark evidence57 rows

Agentic

Terminal-Bench 2.1
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max86.6%
Source
Not directly comparable
CoWorkBench
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max74.8%
Source
Not directly comparable
JobBench
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max53.4%
Source
Not directly comparable
skillsBench
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max70.2%
Source
Not directly comparable
Agents' Last Exam
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max52.4%
Source
Not directly comparable
AutomationBench
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max27.3%
Source
Not directly comparable
Toolathlon-Verified
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max72.5%
Source
Not directly comparable
WideResearch
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max81.9%
Source
Not directly comparable
HLE w/ tools
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max56.2%
Source
Not directly comparable
OSWorld-Verified
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max86.1%
Source
Not directly comparable
OSWorld 2.0
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max19.4%
Source
Not directly comparable
WebArena-Verified
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max66.8%
Source
Not directly comparable
AndroidWorld
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max85.3%
Source
Not directly comparable
MobileWorld
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max77.8%
Source
Not directly comparable

Coding

LiveCodeBench
DeepSeek V337.6%
Source
Qwen3.8 Max—
Not directly comparable
SWE-bench Verified
DeepSeek V342%
Source
Qwen3.8 Max—
Not directly comparable
Terminal-Bench 2.1
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max86.6%
Source
Not directly comparable
SWE-bench Pro
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max67.7%
Source
Not directly comparable
deepSwe
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max56.6%
Source
Not directly comparable
NL2Repo
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max55.9%
Source
Not directly comparable
FrontierSWE
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max73.5%
Source
Not directly comparable
MLS-Bench Lite
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max41.0%
Source
Not directly comparable
PaperBench
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max93.0%
Source
Not directly comparable

Reasoning

MRCRv2
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max92.9%
Source
Not directly comparable
LongBench v2
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max66.3%
Source
Not directly comparable

Knowledge

GPQA
DeepSeek V359.1%
Source
Qwen3.8 Max92.6%
Source
Qwen3.8 Max leads this result
MMLU-Pro
DeepSeek V375.9%
Source
Qwen3.8 Max—
Not directly comparable
GPQA-D
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max92.6%
Source
Not directly comparable
HLE
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max43.6%
Source
Not directly comparable
HLE w/o tools
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max43.6%
Source
Not directly comparable

Math

FrontierMath v2 (Tiers 1-3)
DeepSeek V31.724%
Source
Qwen3.8 Max—
Not directly comparable

Multimodal

MMMU-Pro
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max82.3%
Source
Not directly comparable
MathVision
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max95.2%
Source
Not directly comparable
MathVision w/ Python
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max97.7%
Source
Not directly comparable
BabyVision
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max82.0%
Source
Not directly comparable
BabyVision w/ Python
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max91.3%
Source
Not directly comparable
ZeroBench
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max24.0%
Source
Not directly comparable
ZeroBench w/ Python
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max49.0%
Source
Not directly comparable
MedXpertQA (MM)
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max80.4%
Source
Not directly comparable
ScreenSpot Pro
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max84.5%
Source
Not directly comparable
Vision2Web
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max69.0%
Source
Not directly comparable
CharXiv w/o tools
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max88.4%
Source
Not directly comparable
CharXiv
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max93.5%
Source
Not directly comparable
OmniDocBench 1.5
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max92.1%
Source
Not directly comparable
OCRBench V2
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max74.2%
Source
Not directly comparable
CC-OCR
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max79.6%
Source
Not directly comparable
RealWorldQA
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max88.0%
Source
Not directly comparable
ERQA
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max77.8%
Source
Not directly comparable
SimpleVQA
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max75.0%
Source
Not directly comparable
PerceptionBench
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max63.5%
Source
Not directly comparable
Video-MME (with subtitle)
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max90.4%
Source
Not directly comparable
VideoMMMU
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max88.7%
Source
Not directly comparable
MMVU
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max82.4%
Source
Not directly comparable
MLVU (M-Avg)
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max90.8%
Source
Not directly comparable
LVBench
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max81.8%
Source
Not directly comparable

Instruction following

IFEval
DeepSeek V386.1%
Source
Qwen3.8 Max—
Not directly comparable
IFBench
DeepSeek V3—
Qwen3.8 Max82.8%
Source
Not directly comparable

Frequently asked questions

Which is better, DeepSeek V3 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max has the higher public score estimate, 65.4 versus 44.03, but the 90% score intervals overlap. The higher estimate is not a decisive winner because the uncertainty ranges overlap.

Which is better for coding, DeepSeek V3 or Qwen3.8 Max?

The published evidence does not provide a shared weighted coding basis for both models, so BenchLM does not name a coding winner.

Which is better for agentic tasks, DeepSeek V3 or Qwen3.8 Max?

The published evidence does not provide a shared weighted agentic tasks basis for both models, so BenchLM does not name a agentic tasks winner.

Which costs less, DeepSeek V3 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Both models do not have comparable published API token rates, so this page does not name a universal price winner.

Which has the larger context window, DeepSeek V3 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max has the larger documented context window: 1M, compared with 128K.

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DeepSeek V3 vs Qwen3.8 Max

Which one for your work

Long documents

Coding work

Agentic work

Chat turn cost

Cache-heavy agent loop cost

Repository review cost

What is actually comparable

Category results, on a stated basis

Knowledge

Agentic

Coding

Reasoning

Math

Multilingual

Multimodal

Instruction following

Shape of the matched evidence

What each workload costs

Chat turn

Repository review

Cache-heavy agent loop

Specification differences

Context window

API model ID

Cached-input rate

Documented inputs

Documented outputs

Provider availability

Reasoning profile

Weight access

License

Release date

Self-host vs API cost

Benchmark evidence

Agentic

Coding

Reasoning

Knowledge

Math

Multimodal

Instruction following

Frequently asked questions

Which is better, DeepSeek V3 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Which is better for coding, DeepSeek V3 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Which is better for agentic tasks, DeepSeek V3 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Which costs less, DeepSeek V3 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Which has the larger context window, DeepSeek V3 or Qwen3.8 Max?

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