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Laguna S 2.1 vs Qwen3.8 Max

Decision reading

At least one model is not scored in the current public ranking lane, so the page does not name an overall quality winner.

3 results are shared. Category rows resting on Estimated evidence or different benchmark sets are marked directional and do not name a winner.

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Model A
Laguna S 2.1

Poolside

Evidence status unavailable

90% interval unavailable

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Model B
Qwen3.8 Max

Alibaba

71.76/100

Supported · Public rank #11

90% interval 68.175.4

Updated September 15, 2026. We do not rank this pair: at least one has no public score. Public scores include evidence status and uncertainty.

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Which one for your work

Recommendations appear only when a shared evidence basis or an explicit operating constraint supports the call. Secondary and unsupported use cases stay disclosed below the initial list.

No workload recommendation clears the current evidence threshold.

Use the matched evidence, workload costs, and sourced specifications below instead of treating a point score as a universal answer.

Show secondary and unsupported calls
  • Coding work

    Code generation, repair, and software-engineering tasks

    Not enough matched evidence

    Laguna S 2.1 is scored on Estimated evidence for coding, so the reading is directional rather than like-for-like.

    Confidence: limited

  • Agentic work

    Tool use, computer use, and multi-step task completion

    Not enough matched evidence

    Laguna S 2.1 is scored on Estimated evidence for agentic, so the reading is directional rather than like-for-like.

    Confidence: limited

  • Long documents

    Prompts that approach the documented context limit

    No clear pick

    The documented context windows are equal.

    Confidence: documented

  • Chat turn cost

    1K fresh input + 500 output tokens

    Not enough matched evidence

    A complete comparable API-rate estimate is not available for both models.

    Confidence: listed-rates

  • Cache-heavy agent loop cost

    200K cached + 20K fresh input + 10K output tokens

    Not enough matched evidence

    A complete comparable API-rate estimate is not available for both models.

    Confidence: listed-rates

  • Repository review cost

    50K fresh input + 3K output tokens

    Not enough matched evidence

    A complete comparable API-rate estimate is not available for both models.

    Confidence: listed-rates

What is actually comparable

Shared results can support a head-to-head reading. Results present for only one model describe coverage, not superiority.

Shared results
3
Laguna S 2.1 only
3
Qwen3.8 Max only
57
Like-for-like categories
0 / 8

2 categories rest on Estimated evidence or different evidence sets. Those rows remain visible for coverage context but do not name a winner.

Category results, on a stated basis

Each row shows the public-lane category score for both models: the BenchAlign lane for agentic, coding, and knowledge, and the weighted public rows elsewhere, with the same rank each model page reports. A row is like-for-like only when both scores rest on Supported evidence or the same weighted set. Directional and not-comparable rows remain visible, but they never receive a winner.

Agentic

Directional only
Laguna S 2.1
46.4
Estimated · #79/153
Qwen3.8 Max
67.3
Supported · #9/153
Basis
BenchAlign lane · 2 vs 15 public rows
Reading
Directional only

Coding

Directional only
Laguna S 2.1
46.0
Estimated · #87/152
Qwen3.8 Max
60.8
Supported · #20/152
Basis
BenchAlign lane · 4 vs 12 public rows
Reading
Directional only

Reasoning

Not comparable
Laguna S 2.1
Not ranked
Qwen3.8 Max
86.5
Unranked · 2 rankable rows
Basis
Provisional lane · 0 vs 2 weighted rows
Reading
Not comparable

Knowledge

Not comparable
Laguna S 2.1
Not ranked
Qwen3.8 Max
68.8
Supported · #17/183
Basis
BenchAlign lane · 0 vs 6 public rows
Reading
Not comparable

Math

Not comparable
Laguna S 2.1
Not ranked
Qwen3.8 Max
Not ranked
Basis
Provisional lane · 0 vs 0 weighted rows
Reading
Not comparable

Multilingual

Not comparable
Laguna S 2.1
Not ranked
Qwen3.8 Max
Not ranked
Basis
Provisional lane · 0 vs 0 weighted rows
Reading
Not comparable

Multimodal

Not comparable
Laguna S 2.1
Not ranked
Qwen3.8 Max
87.4
#5/48
Basis
Provisional lane · 0 vs 2 weighted rows
Reading
Not comparable

Instruction following

Not comparable
Laguna S 2.1
Not ranked
Qwen3.8 Max
90.7
#18/123
Basis
Provisional lane · 0 vs 1 weighted rows
Reading
Not comparable

Ranks count the models scored in each category’s lane, so the agentic, coding, and knowledge denominators (BenchAlign) differ from the provisional-lane categories. Unranked scores sit on the lane’s scale but never name a winner. Like-for-like rows within 0.5 points read as a practical tie.

Shape of the matched evidence

Only shared public evidence is shown. Sparse evidence stays a ruled list rather than being closed into a radar shape.

Too few matched category axes support a radar. The ruled list below shows only shared benchmark results; positions use each benchmark’s normalized display scale when available.

What each workload costs

Three fixed token mixes turn per-token rates into comparable decisions. Each scenario states context fit and whether cached input had to fall back to the published list-input rate.

Chat turn

1K fresh input + 500 output tokens

Laguna S 2.1
$0.0002
Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Max
API rate not published
Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Max has no comparable published API token rate.

Repository review

50K fresh input + 3K output tokens

Laguna S 2.1
$0.0056
Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Max
API rate not published
Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Max has no comparable published API token rate.

Cache-heavy agent loop

200K cached + 20K fresh input + 10K output tokens

Laguna S 2.1
$0.006
Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Max
API rate not published
Fits in one request
Cached-input rate unavailable

Qwen3.8 Max has no comparable published API token rate.

Specification differences

Sourced differences are shown directly. Missing facts stay explicit instead of being inferred from a model name or family.

Cached-input rate

A missing cached-input rate falls back to the listed input rate only in the stated workload estimate.

Laguna S 2.1

$0.01 per 1M cached input tokens

Qwen3.8 Max

No comparable hosted API rate

Alibaba Cloud Model Studio pricing

Documented inputs

Laguna S 2.1

Not sourced

Qwen3.8 Max

Not sourced

Documented outputs

Laguna S 2.1

Not sourced

Qwen3.8 Max

Not sourced

Provider availability

Laguna S 2.1

Not sourced

Qwen3.8 Max

Not sourced

Reasoning profile

Laguna S 2.1

Reasoning

Qwen3.8 Max

Reasoning

Weight access

Laguna S 2.1

Open Weight

Qwen3.8 Max

Open Weight

License

Laguna S 2.1

Open Weight

Qwen3.8 Max

Open Weight

Release date

Laguna S 2.1

2026-07-21

Qwen3.8 Max

2026-08-03

If you already use one of these models
Deployment change
The models list different providers, so authentication, endpoint behavior, limits, and feature support may change.
Quality signal
At least one model is not scored in the current public ranking lane, so the page does not name an overall quality winner.
Workload cost
A complete comparable API-rate estimate is not available for both models.
Context tradeoff
Both models list 1M.

Run the same representative tasks against both endpoints before changing production traffic.

Benchmark evidence

The full public result ledger is available for audit without forcing a wide desktop table onto a phone.

Browse raw public benchmark evidence63 rows

Agentic

  • Terminal-Bench 2.0

    Laguna S 2.170.2%
    Source
    Qwen3.8 Max

    Not directly comparable

  • Toolathlon-Verified

    Laguna S 2.149.7%
    Source
    Qwen3.8 Max72.5%
    Source

    Qwen3.8 Max leads this result

  • Terminal-Bench 2.1

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max86.6%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • CoWorkBench

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max74.8%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • JobBench

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max53.4%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • skillsBench

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max70.2%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • Agents' Last Exam

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max52.4%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • AutomationBench

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max27.3%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • WideResearch

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max81.9%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • HLE w/ tools

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max56.2%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • OSWorld-Verified

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max86.1%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • OSWorld 2.0

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max19.4%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • WebArena-Verified

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max66.8%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • AndroidWorld

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max85.3%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • MobileWorld

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max77.8%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • Terminal-Bench 2.1 (Vals)

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max67.4%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

Coding

  • Terminal-Bench 2.0

    Laguna S 2.170.2%
    Source
    Qwen3.8 Max

    Not directly comparable

  • SWE Multilingual

    Laguna S 2.178.5%
    Source
    Qwen3.8 Max

    Not directly comparable

  • SWE-bench Pro

    Laguna S 2.159.4%
    Source
    Qwen3.8 Max67.7%
    Source

    Qwen3.8 Max leads this result

  • DeepSWE

    Laguna S 2.140.4%
    Source
    Qwen3.8 Max56.6%
    Source

    Qwen3.8 Max leads this result

  • Terminal-Bench 2.1

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max86.6%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • NL2Repo

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max55.9%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • FrontierSWE

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max73.5%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • MLS-Bench Lite

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max41.0%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • PaperBench

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max93.0%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • VulcanBench v3

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max81.2%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • OpenHarmony Bench

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max60.8%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • FrontierSWE v2

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max15.8%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • LiveCodeBench (Vals)

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max87.9%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • SWE-bench (Vals)

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max85.6%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

Reasoning

  • MRCRv2

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max92.9%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • LongBench v2

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max66.3%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

Knowledge

  • GPQA

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max92.6%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • GPQA-D

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max92.6%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • HLE

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max43.6%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • HLE w/o tools

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max43.6%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • GPQA Diamond (Vals)

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max93.7%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • MMLU-Pro (Vals)

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max88.6%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

Multimodal

  • MMMU-Pro

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max82.3%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • MathVision

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max95.2%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • MathVision w/ Python

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max97.7%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • BabyVision

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max82.0%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • BabyVision w/ Python

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max91.3%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • ZeroBench

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max24.0%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • ZeroBench w/ Python

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max49.0%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • MedXpertQA (MM)

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max80.4%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • ScreenSpot Pro

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max84.5%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • Vision2Web

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max69.0%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • CharXiv w/o tools

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max88.4%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • CharXiv

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max93.5%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • OmniDocBench 1.5

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max92.1%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • OCRBench V2

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max74.2%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • CC-OCR

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max79.6%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • RealWorldQA

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max88.0%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • ERQA

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max77.8%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • SimpleVQA

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max75.0%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • PerceptionBench

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max63.5%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • Video-MME (with subtitle)

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max90.4%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • VideoMMMU

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max88.7%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • MMVU

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max82.4%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • MLVU (M-Avg)

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max90.8%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

  • LVBench

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max81.8%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

Instruction following

  • IFBench

    Laguna S 2.1
    Qwen3.8 Max82.8%
    Source

    Not directly comparable

Questions

Which is better, Laguna S 2.1 or Qwen3.8 Max?

At least one model is not scored in the current public ranking lane, so the page does not name an overall quality winner. The page therefore keeps the decision tied to the specific documented workload.

Which is better for coding, Laguna S 2.1 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max scores higher for coding on the public lane, 60.8 to 46. Laguna S 2.1 is scored on Estimated evidence for coding, so the reading is directional rather than like-for-like. BenchLM does not name a winner for coding from a directional reading; read the shared benchmark rows directly and test the models on the same task set.

Which is better for agentic tasks, Laguna S 2.1 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max scores higher for agentic tasks on the public lane, 67.3 to 46.4. Laguna S 2.1 is scored on Estimated evidence for agentic tasks, so the reading is directional rather than like-for-like. BenchLM does not name a winner for agentic tasks from a directional reading; read the shared benchmark rows directly and test the models on the same task set.

Which costs less, Laguna S 2.1 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Both models do not have comparable published API token rates, so this page does not name a universal price winner.

Which has the larger context window, Laguna S 2.1 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Both models list the same context window, 1M.

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