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Confidence: documented
Kimi K2.5 vs Qwen3.8 Max
Updated October 29, 2026. Rank says Qwen3.8 Max is ahead. Price, access, and your workload can each overturn that. Public scores include evidence status and uncertainty.
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Decision reading
Qwen3.8 Max has the higher public score estimate, 64.86 versus 52.62, but the 90% score intervals overlap. Treat that as a lead, not a settled winner. 20 results are shared. Category rows resting on Estimated evidence or different benchmark sets are marked directional and do not name a winner.
- Shared results
- 20
- Kimi K2.5 only
- 48
- Qwen3.8 Max only
- 46
- Like-for-like categories
- 1 / 8
Supported: Kimi K2.5 and Qwen3.8 MaxHow the comparison works
Which one for your work
Recommendations appear only when a shared evidence basis or an explicit operating constraint supports the call. Secondary and unsupported use cases stay disclosed below the initial list.
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Coding work
Code generation, repair, and software-engineering tasks
Not enough matched evidence
Kimi K2.5 is scored on Estimated evidence for coding, so the reading is directional rather than like-for-like.
Confidence: limitedAgentic work
Tool use, computer use, and multi-step task completion
Not enough matched evidence
Kimi K2.5 is scored on Estimated evidence for agentic, so the reading is directional rather than like-for-like.
Confidence: limitedChat turn cost
1K fresh input + 500 output tokens
Not enough matched evidence
A complete comparable API-rate estimate is not available for both models.
Confidence: listed-ratesCache-heavy agent loop cost
200K cached + 20K fresh input + 10K output tokens
Not enough matched evidence
A complete comparable API-rate estimate is not available for both models.
Confidence: rate-fallbackRepository review cost
50K fresh input + 3K output tokens
Not enough matched evidence
A complete comparable API-rate estimate is not available for both models.
Confidence: listed-rates
Which one for a specific job
Choose a job from the LLM Selector's task catalog to see the category row it rests on, under the same basis rules as the table below. A directional row stays directional; choosing a job never creates a winner.
The same task catalog as the LLM Selector. Each job names the evidence surface it rests on; nothing here adds a new score.
39.3Kimi K2.552.7Qwen3.8 Max
Directional only · BenchAlign v5.8
Qwen3.8 Max has the higher coding point estimate. Conditional score ranges do not establish rank confidence.
Coding scores combine specific tasks and setups. Match the editor, harness, and effort to your workflow.
Same basis rules as the category table below
What is actually comparable
Shared results can support a head-to-head reading. Results present for only one model describe coverage, not superiority.
48 Kimi K2.5 only
20 Shared
46 Qwen3.8 Max only
4 categories rest on Estimated evidence or different evidence sets. Those rows remain visible for coverage context but do not name a winner.
Shape of the matched evidence
Only shared public evidence is shown. Sparse evidence stays a ruled list rather than being closed into a radar shape.
Too few matched category axes support a radar. The ruled list below shows only shared benchmark results; positions use each benchmark’s normalized display scale when available.
OSWorld-VerifiedAgentic
Normalized gap 22.8Kimi K2.5:63.3%Qwen3.8 Max:86.1%SWE-bench ProCoding
Normalized gap 17.0Kimi K2.5:50.7%Qwen3.8 Max:67.7%CharXivMultimodal
Normalized gap 16.0Kimi K2.5:77.5%Qwen3.8 Max:93.5%HLEKnowledge
Normalized gap 13.5Kimi K2.5:30.1%Qwen3.8 Max:43.6%LongBench v2Reasoning
Normalized gap 5.3Kimi K2.5:61%Qwen3.8 Max:66.3%
Bars run 0–100 on each benchmark’s normalized display scale
Category results, on a stated basis
Each row shows the public-lane category score for both models: the BenchAlign v5.8 lane for agentic, coding, and knowledge, and the weighted public rows elsewhere, with the same rank each model page reports. A row is like-for-like only when both scores rest on Supported evidence or the same weighted set. Directional and not-comparable rows remain visible, but they never receive a winner.
Multimodal
Like-for-like- Kimi K2.5
- 70.4
- #36/58
- Qwen3.8 Max
- 91.9
- #2/58
- Basis
- Provisional lane · 2 vs 2 weighted rows
- Reading
- Qwen3.8 Max leads
Agentic
Directional only- Kimi K2.5
- 42.3
- Estimated · #70/135
- Qwen3.8 Max
- 66.0
- Supported · #16/135
- Basis
- BenchAlign v5.8 lane · 16 vs 18 public rows
- Reading
- Directional only
Coding
Directional only- Kimi K2.5
- 39.3
- Estimated · #69/156
- Qwen3.8 Max
- 52.7
- Supported · #38/156
- Basis
- BenchAlign v5.8 lane · 10 vs 13 public rows
- Reading
- Directional only
Knowledge
Directional only- Kimi K2.5
- 50.5
- Estimated · #79/179
- Qwen3.8 Max
- 65.5
- Supported · #28/179
- Basis
- BenchAlign v5.8 lane · 8 vs 6 public rows
- Reading
- Directional only
Instruction following
Directional only- Kimi K2.5
- 85.8
- #51/157
- Qwen3.8 Max
- 94.7
- #2/157
- Basis
- Provisional lane · 0 vs 1 weighted rows
- Reading
- Directional only
Reasoning
Not comparable- Kimi K2.5
- 71.3
- Unranked · 3 rankable rows
- Qwen3.8 Max
- 87.0
- Unranked · 2 rankable rows
- Basis
- Provisional lane · 1 vs 2 weighted rows
- Reading
- Not comparable
Multilingual
Not comparable- Kimi K2.5
- 87.3
- #8/17
- Qwen3.8 Max
- Not ranked
- Basis
- Provisional lane · 1 vs 0 weighted rows
- Reading
- Not comparable
Math
Not comparable- Kimi K2.5
- 83.3
- Unranked · 7 rankable rows
- Qwen3.8 Max
- 78.9
- Unranked · 2 rankable rows
- Basis
- Provisional lane · 2 vs 2 weighted rows
- Reading
- Not comparable
| Category | Kimi K2.5 | Qwen3.8 Max | Basis | Reading |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Multimodal | 70.4#36/58 | 91.9#2/58 | Like-for-likeProvisional lane · 2 vs 2 weighted rows | Qwen3.8 Max leads |
| Agentic | 42.3Estimated · #70/135 | 66.0Supported · #16/135 | Directional onlyBenchAlign v5.8 lane · 16 vs 18 public rows | Directional only |
| Coding | 39.3Estimated · #69/156 | 52.7Supported · #38/156 | Directional onlyBenchAlign v5.8 lane · 10 vs 13 public rows | Directional only |
| Knowledge | 50.5Estimated · #79/179 | 65.5Supported · #28/179 | Directional onlyBenchAlign v5.8 lane · 8 vs 6 public rows | Directional only |
| Instruction following | 85.8#51/157 | 94.7#2/157 | Directional onlyProvisional lane · 0 vs 1 weighted rows | Directional only |
| Reasoning | 71.3Unranked · 3 rankable rows | 87.0Unranked · 2 rankable rows | Not comparableProvisional lane · 1 vs 2 weighted rows | Not comparable |
| Multilingual | 87.3#8/17 | Not ranked | Not comparableProvisional lane · 1 vs 0 weighted rows | Not comparable |
| Math | 83.3Unranked · 7 rankable rows | 78.9Unranked · 2 rankable rows | Not comparableProvisional lane · 2 vs 2 weighted rows | Not comparable |
Ranks count the models scored in each category’s lane, so the agentic, coding, and knowledge denominators (BenchAlign v5.8) differ from the provisional-lane categories. Unranked scores sit on the provisional lane’s scale but never name a winner. Like-for-like rows within 0.5 points read as a practical tie.
Supported evidence per lane · bars run 0–100Methodology
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes turn per-token rates into comparable decisions. Each scenario states context fit and whether cached input had to fall back to the published list-input rate.
Chat turn
1K fresh input + 500 output tokens
- Kimi K2.5
- $0.0021
- Fits in one request
- Qwen3.8 Max
- API rate not published
- Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Max has no comparable published API token rate.
Repository review
50K fresh input + 3K output tokens
- Kimi K2.5
- $0.039
- Fits in one request
- Qwen3.8 Max
- API rate not published
- Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Max has no comparable published API token rate.
Cache-heavy agent loop
200K cached + 20K fresh input + 10K output tokens
- Kimi K2.5
- $0.162
- Fits in one request
- Cached input priced at the published list-input rate
- Qwen3.8 Max
- API rate not published
- Fits in one request
- Cached-input rate unavailable
Kimi K2.5 has no published cached-input rate, so cached tokens use its listed input rate. Qwen3.8 Max has no comparable published API token rate.
Cached input falls back to the list input rate only where a cached rate is unpublished
Specification differences
Sourced differences are shown directly. Missing facts stay explicit instead of being inferred from a model name or family.
SpecificationKimi K2.5Qwen3.8 Max
Context window
Maximum documented context; output-token limits may be lower.
Kimi K2.5
256K
Qwen3.8 Max
API model ID
Kimi K2.5
Not sourced
Qwen3.8 Max
qwen3.8-max
Alibaba Cloud Model Studio pricingCached-input rate
A missing cached-input rate falls back to the listed input rate only in the stated workload estimate.
Kimi K2.5
Not published
Qwen3.8 Max
No comparable hosted API rate
Alibaba Cloud Model Studio pricingDocumented inputs
Kimi K2.5
Not sourced
Qwen3.8 Max
Not sourced
Documented outputs
Kimi K2.5
Not sourced
Qwen3.8 Max
Not sourced
Provider availability
Kimi K2.5
Not sourced
Qwen3.8 Max
Not sourced
Reasoning profile
Kimi K2.5
Non-Reasoning
Qwen3.8 Max
Reasoning
Weight access
Kimi K2.5
Open Weight
Qwen3.8 Max
Open Weight
License
Kimi K2.5
Open Weight
Qwen3.8 Max
Open Weight
Release date
Kimi K2.5
2026-01-27
Qwen3.8 Max
2026-08-03
If you already use one of these models
- Deployment change
- The models list different providers, so authentication, endpoint behavior, limits, and feature support may change.
- Quality signal
- Qwen3.8 Max has the higher public score estimate, 64.86 versus 52.62, but the 90% score intervals overlap.
- Workload cost
- A complete comparable API-rate estimate is not available for both models.
- Context tradeoff
- Qwen3.8 Max has the larger documented window (1M).
Run the same representative tasks against both endpoints before changing production traffic.
Questions
Which is better, Kimi K2.5 or Qwen3.8 Max?
Qwen3.8 Max has the higher public score estimate, 64.86 versus 52.62, but the 90% score intervals overlap. The higher estimate is not a decisive winner because the uncertainty ranges overlap.
Which is better for coding, Kimi K2.5 or Qwen3.8 Max?
Qwen3.8 Max scores higher for coding on the public lane, 52.7 to 39.3. Kimi K2.5 is scored on Estimated evidence for coding, so the reading is directional rather than like-for-like. BenchLM does not name a winner for coding from a directional reading; read the shared benchmark rows directly and test the models on the same task set.
Which is better for agentic tasks, Kimi K2.5 or Qwen3.8 Max?
Qwen3.8 Max scores higher for agentic tasks on the public lane, 66 to 42.3. Kimi K2.5 is scored on Estimated evidence for agentic tasks, so the reading is directional rather than like-for-like. BenchLM does not name a winner for agentic tasks from a directional reading; read the shared benchmark rows directly and test the models on the same task set.
Which costs less, Kimi K2.5 or Qwen3.8 Max?
Both models do not have comparable published API token rates, so this page does not name a universal price winner.
Which has the larger context window, Kimi K2.5 or Qwen3.8 Max?
Qwen3.8 Max has the larger documented context window: 1M, compared with 256K.
Self-host vs API cost
Estimates at 50,000 req/day · 1000 tokens/req average.
Kimi K2.5
API / mo$2,700
Self-host / mo$27,962
Break-even706M/day
Qwen3.8 Max
API / mo$0
Self-host / mo$57,606
Break-even—
Benchmark evidence
The full public result ledger is available for audit without forcing a wide desktop table onto a phone.
Browse raw public benchmark evidence114 rows
Agentic
Terminal-Bench 2.0
Kimi K2.550.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
BrowseComp
Kimi K2.560.6%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
OSWorld-Verified
Kimi K2.563.3%SourceQwen3.8 Max86.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
Claw-Eval
Kimi K2.552.3%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
QwenClawBench
Kimi K2.554.3%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
τ³-bench results
Kimi K2.565.7%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
DeepSearchQA
Kimi K2.577.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
DeepPlanning
Kimi K2.514.4%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
Toolathlon
Kimi K2.527.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
MCP Atlas
Kimi K2.529.5%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
MCP-Tasks
Kimi K2.559.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
WideResearch
Kimi K2.572.7%SourceQwen3.8 Max81.9%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
BFCL v4
Kimi K2.568.3%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
Gert Labs
Kimi K2.545.88%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
ResearchClawBench
Kimi K2.514.0%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
JobBench
Kimi K2.58.7%SourceQwen3.8 Max53.4%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
Terminal-Bench 2.1
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max86.6%SourceNot directly comparable
CoWorkBench
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max74.8%SourceNot directly comparable
skillsBench
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max70.2%SourceNot directly comparable
Agents' Last Exam
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max52.4%SourceNot directly comparable
AutomationBench
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max27.3%SourceNot directly comparable
Toolathlon-Verified
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max72.5%SourceNot directly comparable
HLE w/ tools
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max56.2%SourceNot directly comparable
OSWorld 2.0
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max19.4%SourceNot directly comparable
WebArena-Verified
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max66.8%SourceNot directly comparable
AndroidWorld
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max85.3%SourceNot directly comparable
MobileWorld
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max77.8%SourceNot directly comparable
Terminal-Bench 2.1 (Vals)
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max67.4%SourceNot directly comparable
Hermes Index
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max36.2%SourceNot directly comparable
Hermes Bench
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max70.5%SourceNot directly comparable
MazeBench
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max0%SourceNot directly comparable
Coding
SWE-bench Verified
Kimi K2.576.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
SWE-bench Verified*
Kimi K2.570.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
LiveCodeBench v6
Kimi K2.585.0%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
SWE-bench Pro
Kimi K2.550.7%SourceQwen3.8 Max67.7%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
SWE Multilingual
Kimi K2.573%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
SWE-Rebench
Kimi K2.558.5%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
React Native Evals
Kimi K2.577.2%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
NL2Repo
Kimi K2.532%SourceQwen3.8 Max55.9%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
SciCode
Kimi K2.548.7%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
Terminal-Bench 2.0
Kimi K2.550.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
Terminal-Bench 2.1
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max86.6%SourceNot directly comparable
DeepSWE
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max56.6%SourceNot directly comparable
FrontierSWE
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max73.5%SourceNot directly comparable
MLS-Bench Lite
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max41.0%SourceNot directly comparable
PaperBench
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max93.0%SourceNot directly comparable
VulcanBench v3
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max81.2%SourceNot directly comparable
OpenHarmony Bench
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max60.8%SourceNot directly comparable
FrontierSWE v2
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max15.8%SourceNot directly comparable
LiveCodeBench (Vals)
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max87.9%SourceNot directly comparable
SWE-bench (Vals)
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max85.6%SourceNot directly comparable
Bug Hunt Bench
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max25.7 fixesSourceNot directly comparable
Reasoning
Multimodal
MMMU
Kimi K2.584.3%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
MMMU-Pro
Kimi K2.578.5%SourceQwen3.8 Max82.3%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
RealWorldQA
Kimi K2.581.0%SourceQwen3.8 Max88.0%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
OmniDocBench 1.5
Kimi K2.588.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max92.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
Video-MME
Kimi K2.587.4%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
Video-MME (with subtitle)
Kimi K2.587.4%SourceQwen3.8 Max90.4%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
Video-MME (w/o subtitle)
Kimi K2.583.2%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
MathVision
Kimi K2.584.2%SourceQwen3.8 Max95.2%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
We-Math
Kimi K2.584.7%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
DynaMath
Kimi K2.584.4%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
SimpleVQA
Kimi K2.571.2%SourceQwen3.8 Max75.0%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
MMLongBench-Doc
Kimi K2.558.5%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
CC-OCR
Kimi K2.579.7%SourceQwen3.8 Max79.6%SourceKimi K2.5 leads this result
AI2D_TEST
Kimi K2.590.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
CountBench
Kimi K2.594.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
RefCOCO (avg)
Kimi K2.587.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
MMVU
Kimi K2.580.4%SourceQwen3.8 Max82.4%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
VideoMMMU
Kimi K2.586.6%SourceQwen3.8 Max88.7%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
MLVU (M-Avg)
Kimi K2.585.0%SourceQwen3.8 Max90.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
CharXiv
Kimi K2.577.5%SourceQwen3.8 Max93.5%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
MathVision w/ Python
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max97.7%SourceNot directly comparable
BabyVision
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max82.0%SourceNot directly comparable
BabyVision w/ Python
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max91.3%SourceNot directly comparable
ZeroBench
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max24.0%SourceNot directly comparable
ZeroBench w/ Python
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max49.0%SourceNot directly comparable
MedXpertQA (MM)
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max80.4%SourceNot directly comparable
ScreenSpot Pro
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max84.5%SourceNot directly comparable
Vision2Web
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max69.0%SourceNot directly comparable
CharXiv w/o tools
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max88.4%SourceNot directly comparable
OCRBench V2
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max74.2%SourceNot directly comparable
ERQA
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max77.8%SourceNot directly comparable
PerceptionBench
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max63.5%SourceNot directly comparable
LVBench
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max81.8%SourceNot directly comparable
Knowledge
GPQA
Kimi K2.587.6%SourceQwen3.8 Max92.6%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
GPQA-D
Kimi K2.587.6%SourceQwen3.8 Max92.6%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
SuperGPQA
Kimi K2.569.2%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
MMLU-Pro
Kimi K2.587.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
MMLU-Pro (Arcee)
Kimi K2.587.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
MMLU-Redux
Kimi K2.594.5%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
C-Eval
Kimi K2.594%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
HLE
Kimi K2.530.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max43.6%SourceQwen3.8 Max leads this result
HLE w/o tools
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max43.6%SourceNot directly comparable
GPQA Diamond (Vals)
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max93.7%SourceNot directly comparable
MMLU-Pro (Vals)
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max88.6%SourceNot directly comparable
Multilingual
MMLU-ProX
Kimi K2.582.3%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
NOVA-63
Kimi K2.556.0%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
INCLUDE
Kimi K2.583.3%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
PolyMath
Kimi K2.543.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
MAXIFE
Kimi K2.572.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
Instruction following
Math
AIME 2025
Kimi K2.596.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
AIME26
Kimi K2.595.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
AIME25 (Arcee)
Kimi K2.596.3%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
HMMT Feb 2025
Kimi K2.595.4%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
HMMT Nov 2025
Kimi K2.591.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
HMMT Feb 2026
Kimi K2.587.1%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
MMAnswerBench
Kimi K2.581.8%SourceQwen3.8 Max—Not directly comparable
FrontierMath v2 (Tiers 1-3)
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max74.737%SourceNot directly comparable
FrontierMath v2 (Tier 4)
Kimi K2.5—Qwen3.8 Max46.341%SourceNot directly comparable
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